Don’t forget Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack The Ripper, Jim Jones…
When people start claiming that so-and-so was gay, they always seem to only want to claim *positive* historical figures. Kinda like whenever anyone claims to be reincarnated, their previous lives were always Cleopatra or Napoleon or someone else exciting.
This “gay” thing is getting ridiculous especially when you resort to calling certain historical figures “gay” and saying they had homosexual relationships.
Admin — I seriously doubt Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack the Ripper, and Jim Jones were gay.
I’d say the actual number of gays would be around 3 to 5% rather than 10%.
The problem with historical figures is that they are not alive to contradict these claims and offer us evidence or insight to contradict these claims.
If Lincoln was gay, though, I think the Civil Rights movement would have come out different… way different.
> I seriously doubt Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack the Ripper, and Jim Jones were gay.
You sure? Let’s look at Hitler: here was a lifelong bachelor, liked to hang out with butch Blond Supermen, made sure that his clothes – and the clothes of those around him – were always designed by the most fashionable of designers (RealFact: SS, SA and Hitler Youth uniforms designed and produced by Hugo Boss); and at the end, he put a bullet through his head just after getting married to – GASP! – a woman.
Sarcasm OFF.
Seriously, the logic used to claim some of historys greatest heroes as homosexuals works just as well, and is just as well founded, for some of history greatest monsters. I’m sure a case can be made for Jimmah Carter.
History *has* been replete with homosexuals… such as the Spartans, who were not the stalward defenders of democracy they were portrayed as in “300.” I will avoid discussion of whether or not homosexuality is immoral… largely because I really, truly, do not give a rats ass. What does amuse me is how “so-and-so was gay” is used, often with minimal evidence, on *both* sides.
From what I’ve read on the lead books, the ones that have been examined in detail have little text in them and are mainly full of symbols and drawings.
Given that the pages on most of them are only around the size of credit cards, there wouldn’t be much space for writing anyway.
Two things hit me as odd about them:
1.) They are made out of cast lead rather than engraved lead, which suggests that multiple copies of them were made using molds.
This would be very odd for something that was considered holy at the time; even today, the Torahs used in synagogues are hand lettered copies of another Torah, not something that came out of a printing press.
2.) Lead was considered a very base metal at the time, and manufacturing something holy out of it might have well been considered blasphemy. There was a copper scroll discovered with The Dead Sea Scrolls, but it wasn’t about anything holy, just a list of where hidden treasure was to be located in Jerusalem. The copper appears to have been used to make it less susceptible to damage over time.
These things, like the “Jesus Ossuary” fake, smell really suspicious.
They certainly are odd enough to deserve investigation to figure out exactly what they are though.
If they really are ancient, the lead construction may purposely be to make them unclean, and you could be looking at something Gnostic in nature.
The most revealing aspect of this will be the number of times the article is forwarded to Twitter or Facebook or the like.
Isn’t it interesting that now all our historical figures have had bisexual or homosexual affairs (Malcolm X, J. Edgar Hoover, etc).
Lincoln also. Turns out lots of people are gay, maybe 10%. They are just good at hiding it with bathroom leg tapping and the like.
> Lincoln also.
Don’t forget Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack The Ripper, Jim Jones…
When people start claiming that so-and-so was gay, they always seem to only want to claim *positive* historical figures. Kinda like whenever anyone claims to be reincarnated, their previous lives were always Cleopatra or Napoleon or someone else exciting.
This “gay” thing is getting ridiculous especially when you resort to calling certain historical figures “gay” and saying they had homosexual relationships.
Admin — I seriously doubt Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack the Ripper, and Jim Jones were gay.
I’d say the actual number of gays would be around 3 to 5% rather than 10%.
The problem with historical figures is that they are not alive to contradict these claims and offer us evidence or insight to contradict these claims.
If Lincoln was gay, though, I think the Civil Rights movement would have come out different… way different.
> I seriously doubt Hitler, Stalin, Tojo, Jack the Ripper, and Jim Jones were gay.
You sure? Let’s look at Hitler: here was a lifelong bachelor, liked to hang out with butch Blond Supermen, made sure that his clothes – and the clothes of those around him – were always designed by the most fashionable of designers (RealFact: SS, SA and Hitler Youth uniforms designed and produced by Hugo Boss); and at the end, he put a bullet through his head just after getting married to – GASP! – a woman.
Sarcasm OFF.
Seriously, the logic used to claim some of historys greatest heroes as homosexuals works just as well, and is just as well founded, for some of history greatest monsters. I’m sure a case can be made for Jimmah Carter.
History *has* been replete with homosexuals… such as the Spartans, who were not the stalward defenders of democracy they were portrayed as in “300.” I will avoid discussion of whether or not homosexuality is immoral… largely because I really, truly, do not give a rats ass. What does amuse me is how “so-and-so was gay” is used, often with minimal evidence, on *both* sides.
From what I’ve read on the lead books, the ones that have been examined in detail have little text in them and are mainly full of symbols and drawings.
Given that the pages on most of them are only around the size of credit cards, there wouldn’t be much space for writing anyway.
Two things hit me as odd about them:
1.) They are made out of cast lead rather than engraved lead, which suggests that multiple copies of them were made using molds.
This would be very odd for something that was considered holy at the time; even today, the Torahs used in synagogues are hand lettered copies of another Torah, not something that came out of a printing press.
2.) Lead was considered a very base metal at the time, and manufacturing something holy out of it might have well been considered blasphemy. There was a copper scroll discovered with The Dead Sea Scrolls, but it wasn’t about anything holy, just a list of where hidden treasure was to be located in Jerusalem. The copper appears to have been used to make it less susceptible to damage over time.
These things, like the “Jesus Ossuary” fake, smell really suspicious.
They certainly are odd enough to deserve investigation to figure out exactly what they are though.
If they really are ancient, the lead construction may purposely be to make them unclean, and you could be looking at something Gnostic in nature.
Whoops, wrong posting.