Police today found the body of a gunman who shot dead at least four people after going on a bloody rampage in the Lake District.
Derrick Bird, 52, was found in woodland near Boot, Cumbria, by police. He had shot himself.
Witnesses today described horrific scenes as the cab driver, who had recently become a grandfather, shot his victims in the head at point blank range.
This can only mean that more laws are required. Pass enough laws, and eventually everyone will obey them, right?
The question is why did this guy go ona shooting rampage?
Muriel Gilpin, 60, postmistress of Arlecdon Post Office, told Mail Online: ‘Everybody knows everybody here. That is why everybody is in shock.
‘He comes into the post office for milk sometimes.
Well, there’s your problem.
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Lactose intolerance will do it every time.
The British must really enjoy talking about stuff like that.
I knew it!
Cow Brain Parasites!
One day perfectly normal; the next being day being “hagridden” by the Milk Masters and trying to jump over the Moon.
Thank God Benjamin Franklin realized the danger of sending milk to people via the postal service, and would not allow it in the United States.
May I remind you that twelve people died.
Making jokes about it now is worse than poor taste, and so is making cheap political points – or is that okay because it happened in Britain?
Any proposals to change gun laws should wait until the facts are known – for instance whether he legally owned the guns used. When the facts are known there can be a discussion that weighs up the pros and cons of any change, and that would be debated and voted on in parliament. You know, this little thing called democracy. You may have heard of it.
A more immediate issue is the behaviour of the media during this incident, which has varied from the commendable to the despicable.
RIP the dead, and may the lucky recover quickly.
> Making jokes about it now is worse than poor taste
What’s in poor taste is goling to the post office for milk. That’s crazy right there. There are these things called “grocery stores…”
> Any proposals to change gun laws should wait until the facts are known
What facts could *possibly* become known that would possibly make further restrictions on the rights of British subjects called for?
> You know, this little thing called democracy.
Sometimes democracy is essentially like letting three wolves and one sheep vote on what to have for dinner.
The moment you allow a single one of your basic rights to be taken away by someone else, you have made yourself their slave.
>> Making jokes about it now is worse than poor taste
>What’s in poor taste is goling to the post office for milk. That’s crazy
> right there. There are these things called “grocery stores…”
Have you ever actually been to Britain? If so, have you ever gone anywhere outside the cities? Most post offices in small villages sell additional goods in the absence of other stores. In a few, the pub, post office and store are all in the same building (in the recent election several villages had their polling stations inside the pub). The alternative is for villages to have *no* store.
Part of the reason for this is historical – we have a universal post service, and this meant that even the smallest places had to have a post office open on occasion, within reach of the population. As time went on it made sense for those post offices to sell other goods and services as well. Unfortunately we are heading further and further away from this ‘universal’ service. Post offices are at the heart of many rural communities.
Therefore going to the post office for milk is only crazy if you do not know Britain. Who would have guessed it – different countries do things differently.
I will probably not favour strengthened gun laws – if anything, it looks like the existing laws were not adequately applied in this ****’s case. However, I do not wish to prejudge the facts, and when they come in I shall make my own judgement.
Owning a gun is not seen as a fundamental right for the vast majority of the people in the UK. For obvious reasons the situation is different in many parts of the US.
People in different countries see things differently. For instance in the UK universal healthcare is seen as a fundamental right. Many in your country disagree.
Abolishing gun controls would make me no freer. At the end of the day I am no-one’s slave… Well, perhaps my wife would have something to say about that. 🙂
> Most post offices in small villages sell additional goods in the absence of other stores. … The alternative is for villages to have *no* store.
That’s your problem right there. “If the government doesn’t provide it, why, I guess there’s no such thing as private enterprise, so we’ll have to do without.”
> Owning a gun is not seen as a fundamental right for the vast majority of the people in the UK.
That’s your problem right there. Y’all have decided to outsource your safety to others.
> For instance in the UK universal healthcare is seen as a fundamental right.
That’s your problem right there. You have decided that you have the *right* to someone else’s time and effort and expertise.
> Abolishing gun controls would make me no freer.
Hogwash. It would free you to make your own choices, at least in this area. And if you are not free to make the choice to defend yourself from attack… what are you?
> I am no-one’s slave
Really? Earn yourself one million pounds via some fine entepreneurial means. Then refuse to pay taxes. See what happens. Buy yourself a deisel car, and fill it up with vegetable oil you grew yourself, and drive into London, and see what happens. Get a TV but don’t buy a “TV license,” and see what happens. Walk down the street with a Bowie knife on your thigh and a pistol on your hip, and see what happens. Go on the BBC and declare that you believe that Islam is not a good religion and that you’d prefer that all the jihadist Imams be kicked back out of the country. (Or, for that matter, that you don’t like the blacks, Scots, Welsh, redheads, Tories, socialists, Asians, retards, right-winger, Jews, Christians, Atheists, Pagans, straights, gay, bis, the young, the old, whoever) None of these actions harm anyone else in the slightest, but I suspect you’ll soon find that your “betters” might disagree with your choices and will use force to ammend your ways.
It’s all very wonderfully tolerant to yammer on about “different coutries do things differently,” but some things are just plains *wrong* no matter who does it. And IMO, reducing average humans to the status of subjects is *wrong,* no matter who’s doing it. And, yes, there’s a hell of a lot wrong with the US, don;t get me freakin’ started.
> That’s your problem right there. “If the government doesn’t provide it,
> why, I guess there’s no such thing as private enterprise, so we’ll have
> to do without.”
Actually, post offices are private enterprise, and are not provided by the government. The Royal Mail is state-owned, but run separately from the Government. Post office counters (the ‘post offices) are mainly run by franchises or mom-and-pop operations. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Post_Office_Ltd. As I understand it, they are paid by the Royal Mail for the services delivered, and make extra money by selling other goods. So they are private enterprises that receive some of their income from a state-owned but independently-run company.
> Really? Earn yourself one million pounds via some fine entepreneurial means. Then refuse to pay taxes.
I think you’ll find that your state and national government would frown at that… unless you have a good accountant.
> It’s all very wonderfully tolerant to yammer on about “different coutries
> do things differently,” but some things are just plains *wrong* no
> matter who does it.
So you pay no taxes and obey no laws? You are as much a subject of the US and state government as I am of the British Government and Test Valley Council. Some of those restrictions probably do not bother you, but they rest on your shoulders nonetheless.
The restrictions on me may be slightly greater, and I may pay higher taxes, but at least I know that if I have problems I shall be able to get a basic but fairly good level of healthcare without having to worry about insurance. And it is a relief to know that my friends and family also have that safety net. As we are in a fortunate position, we have private healthcare as well (the massive arguments about the rights and wrongs of private healthcare that we have in the UK would probably make your brain explode).
The same can be said about many of the other things that you would see as being ‘socialist’. This is the perverse thing – I am on the *right* of British politics. I used to shoot, and my sister shoots regularly. I went to private school. I am an engineer who actually makes things (well, writes software). I am middle class. Yet my right-wing-for-Britain perspective is utterly left-wing to yours.
However much you may like to think you are, you are not free.
> So you pay no taxes and obey no laws?
You would do well to read the *whole* comment before responding:
“And, yes, there’s a hell of a lot wrong with the US, don;t get me freakin’ started.”
I may pay higher taxes, but at least I know that if I have problems I shall be able to get a basic but fairly good level of healthcare without having to worry about insurance. And it is a relief to know that my friends and family also have that safety net. As we are in a fortunate position, we have private healthcare as well (the massive arguments about the rights and wrongs of private healthcare that we have in the UK would probably make your brain explode).
I believe the day is soon coming when all you will have left of those “rights” are a claim check and a waiting line, just as those who live/d in more thoroughly socialized countries quickly discovered when they decided to start “robbing selected Peter to pay for collective Paul.” The part of me that does not enjoy watching anyone going without hopes that I am wrong. The part of me that is afraid that America will soon start walking the same “road to serfdom” cannot help but hope that the example of Europe… most notably Greece… will serve as a harsh but necessary wake-up call to those in my own country who wish to tread Europe’s path.
> I am no-one’s slave
The funny thing about slave societies, the slaves eventually don’t consider themselves slaves – but members of a family to which they sacrifice themselves for the greater good. For one thing it’s a neat mental trick to make the slavery seem more paletable and even noble.
Some people, Heinlein for example, think that slavery is a more or less natural state for man and that free men have to struggle to attain what is an unnatural state. Which is why entropy favors bureaucratic slave states which end up being toppled by the barbarian hordes. This seems to describe present day Britain to a “T”.