http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/39703380/ns/world_news-europe/
Germany’s attempt to create a multicultural society has “utterly failed,” Chancellor Angela Merkel said on Saturday…
This will be entertaining. I’m torn between thinking “haven’t I seen this movie before,” and “it certainly seems like she might have some good points,” such as:
She said too little had been required of immigrants in the past and repeated her usual line that they should learn German…
and
… the education of unemployed Germans should take priority over recruiting workers from abroad…
Also noted is that more people are leaving Germany than entering. The arguement was then made that this means immigrants are needed. Absent from the article is the notion that maybe they shoudl figure out *why* people are leaving, and see if maybe that can be corrected.
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Lassaire faire Multiculturalism is always doomed to failure. Proactive Multiculturalism tends to work OK. Of course, you could go for monoculturalism but Japan and Iceland are the only two where’s that worked and then, the Japanese have tried to wipe out the natives and actively oppress their immigrants.
Multiculturalism works well enough when the cultures involved agree on certain basic principles, like “it’s ok to be of another culture.” Doesn;t work so great when one or mor eof the cultures has a “kill the infidels” mentality.
It’s also helpful for there to be an over-arching central culture, and the secondary cultures are small enough that they assimilate into it. They can retain their “cultural identity,” but they accept that they are part of the central culture.
Scott, I know Germany’s population growth is negative, but are you saying that their actual migration rate is negative, too?
I’ve not researched it, but from what I’ve read, Germans are fleeing Germany faster than German expats are coming home. Which should surprise nobody… most times when someone leaves their homeland, they ain’t comin’ back. But I’m also given to understand that the rate of German exodus also exceeds the combined birthrate and immigration rate from other Western countries, so they have to import from the Dirt World countries. Turkey is apparently supplying a pretty good fraction of this. Interestingly, Germany (unlike the US) doesn’t have birthright citizenship for legal immigrants, so they have several generations of people born in Germany to parents born in Germany, who have never known anywhere but Germany, and who aren’t German citizens and can, in theory, be deported.
Awesome.
What could possibly go wrong?
You gotta ask yourself why an MSM like MSNBC would reveal something that is anathema to the Left.
I like the German approach to citizenship. I also like the idea of a literacy test for voters, but I’m told that’s racist.
> I like the German approach to citizenship.
Making it difficult to attain citizenship is one thing. The Japanese certainly do that. But to make it difficult to attain citizenship while making it easy to immigrate is *insane.* This is a recipe for installing *million* of people into your country who don’t fit it, don’t want to fit in, and don’t want to go anywhere else. How can this lead to anything good?
It’s not easy ti enter the USA. I’ve never met or heard of anyone who did it and didn’t a horror story or two. The American problem is that no one seems to have the honesty or the respect for laws that’s sufficient to get rid of the illegals.
There’s an illegal Bolivian in Virginia who’s in jail now for killing a nun while he was driving drunk. It turns out this is his third DUI with his Virginia license, in two or three years. He was noted to be illegal every time he was arrested, but no one did anything about it. ICE refused to act until now because he was only a DUI. The last report I heard was that the Obama administration said he could NOT be deported — that the man’s situation was “secret.” I can’t wait to hear what this is all about.
Interesting you blame the problems of German society on immigrants only. You don’t think there may also be a problem with some sections of German society which refuse to accept anybody who isn’t x generations German? I’ve read several accounts of how Germans openly practice racism against anybody who isn’t white. So, where is your condemnation of the Germans declaring people of colour “infidels”? Forgotten about the attacks on migrant hostels where people have been burnt to death? Of course, Germans are such nice, white, Christian people so they’re excused, now aren’t they?
> Interesting you blame the problems of German society on immigrants only.
Interesting that you jump to that conclusion only, in direct contradiction to what was actually said. But then you also can’t tell the difference between “race” and “political persuasion,” so I guess I should not be overly surprised.
> where is your condemnation of the Germans
But I thought they had a wonderful welfare system?
> Germans are such nice, white, Christian people so they’re excused, now aren’t they?
Somebody doesn’t know me very well, do he…
Do you do a good job of explaining yourself? Nope.
When half a host society can’t even admit that its racist and bigoted then any immigrant, no matter what their colour or creed will be rejected _and_ blamed for the problems they are supposedly creating. Like the Jews they make easy scapegoats simply because they are different.
> Do you do a good job of explaining yourself? Nope.
Maybe, maybe not. What I *do* do well is tell the truth, and watch some people twist it through the fifth dimension in order to fit it to their preconceived notions. It’s both entertaining and sad, but there it is.
I have posted more than once about incidents of police abusing their power. Does that indicate to you that I am anti-police? If I post an article about a person of politics X, religion Y and ethnicity Z doing something monumentally evil/stupid/ridiculous, does that mean I’m anti-X, Y, Z? If your “logic” leads you automatically to that conclusion… just imagine how interested I am in wasting my life trying to enlighten you.
As to Germany and it’s immigrants… I could hardly care less. It’s Germany’s problem… and one of their own creation. Just as America’s illegal immigration problem is of our own creation, and our disastrous welfare state is our own creation, and Britain’s Nanny State is their own creation. While I may point and laugh at other nations screwups, my interest is in how they can inform and eliighten America’s problems… because I’m an American, and our problems are of paramount interest to me.
“I also like the idea of a literacy test for voters, but I’m told that’s racist.”
Michael, just ask anyone who thinks this if they support minimum wage. If the answer is yes, and it nearly always is, ask them in a tone of faux horror how they can be so racist?!? and then point out to them that unemployment of blacks and young people jumped up after the minimum wage law was raised in the early 50s.
“At the end of WWII, the minimum wage was 40 cents an hour. Wartime inflation had made that so low in real terms as to be unimportant. The minimum wage was then raised sharply to 75 cents in 1950, to 1.00 in 1956. In the early fifties, the unemployment rate for teenagers averaged 10 percent compared with about 4 percent for all workers – moderately higher, as one would expect for a group just entering the labor force. The unemployment rates for white and black teenagers were roughly equal. After minimum wage rates were raised sharply, the unemployment rate shot up for both white and black teenagers. Even more significant, an unemployment gap opened between the rates for white and black teenagers” – Milton Friedman, Free to Choose, p. 238