Sep 112010
Nine years. Seems both like a long time, and just yesterday.
Sadly, my post from a year ago seems pretty much entirely as relevant now: http://up-ship.com/blog/blog/?p=3928
The only difference is that there has been some progress on the WTC site. And, of course, the Cordoba Victory Moque proposed at ground zero.
For those of you non-Americans who looks at this rememberance of an attack 9 years ago and shake your heads in disbelief, thinking to yourself something like “Other people get attacked all they time, and they get over it a lot faster,” there’s a simple difference: we *don’t* get attacked all the time. Major terrorist attacks are not part of the American experience.
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>Major terrorist attacks are not part of the American experience.
only a major Propaganda hate speech by the Dutchman Geert Wilders in New York.
Wilders ist leader of the far right Party for Freedom (PVV) in Netherlands,
He advocates banning the Qur’an,
taxing women who wear the headscarf,
ending immigration from Muslim countries,
and banning the construction of new mosques.
why to hell he do that in New York ?
i think, he believe that still New Amsterdam…
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geert_Wilders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Amsterdam
> Propaganda hate speech by the Dutchman Geert Wilders
As you say, he apparently wants to ban the Koran. Would it be “hate speech” for someone to want to ban “Main Kampf?”
>why to hell he do that in New York ?
Because he’s free to speak in New York, and New York is a town that has some experience with the troubles he’s calling attention to.
>Because he’s free to speak in New York, and New York is a town that has some >experience with the troubles he’s calling attention to.
that he find also in Old Amsterdam.
>Would it be “hate speech” for someone to want to ban “Main Kampf?”
interesting point of view, in germany that book is ban to sell
the Neo Nazi don’t complaint about it and order this book over internet
from USA…
> interesting point of view, in germany that book is ban to sell
If it’s “hate speech” to want to ban the Koran, it’s “hate speech” to want to ban “Mein Kampf.” Or any other book with a political and/or religious message.
If it’s only reasonable to want to ban “Mein Kampf” because it has a blood-soaked past and could inspire people to murderous acts… then, ummm… ahem, Koran?
i have read “Mein Kampf” it full of heavy rhetoric, bizzar opinions
and pure hate against all was is not “german*” in Hitler views.
(* = wat Hitler believe was to be German)
>it has a blood-soaked past and could inspire people to murderous acts… then, >ummm… ahem, Koran?
ohh there another book equal past… The Bible
million of people were murder in name of the Bible
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crusades
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albigensian_Crusade
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thirty_Years%27_War#Casualties_and_disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Witch-hunt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inquisition
with that evidence, must the Bible be ban also ?
> with that evidence, must the Bible be ban also ?
Ask those countries that think that laws banning certain books is a good idea, and if so why the Bible should be excluded. In the US, *no* books are banned due to religious or political viewpoints. And neither is any speech, such as Wilders warnings about Islam.
Q: Knock Knock
A: Who’s there ?
Q: 9/11
A: 9/11 who ?
Q: You said you’d never forget !
You’re all misunderstanding Wilders’s position on the book banning thing. What he is saying is NOT that he wants to ban the Koran, but rather that under the Netherlands’s hate speech laws, which DO ban Mein Kampf, the Koran should logically be banned under those same laws and for the same reasons.
As for the rest of what Wilders wants, the taxing headscarves and an end to immigration from Muslim countries… let’s just say that while in a completely free country (one without welfare or “hate speech” laws for example) I would not be willing to do the former and would think it unnecessary to do the latter, in a country which is half-socialist, such as the Netherlands, there is very sound reason to do both. To believe otherwise is to frankly demonstrate an appalling ignorance of the problems which the Netherlands and the other countries of Europe have been having with its Muslim immigrant populations.