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It’s coming, and will be administered byt the IRS. Joy unbounded.

http://www.pgnh.org/obamacare_s_hidden_gun_control

Effective January 1, 2012, the national healthcare legislation passed by Congress contains tax provisions that will require gun dealers to report to the IRS purchases and sales of guns and any other goods valued over $600. IRS 1099 forms will have to be filed, reporting the sale/purchase. This reporting will be required for purchases from either individuals or corporations. The new IRS provisions apply to all goods and services.

Looks like it also means that if you, Regular Joe, decide to sell your $601 hunting rifle to your neighbor, you’ll need to fill out the IRS paperwork… or you’ll go to federal prison.

 Posted by at 11:00 pm

  9 Responses to “National Gun Registration”

  1. SSDD? Wasn’t it gols last week? OK, the 1099 thing is stupid and misguided, but I don’t see it as becomming a defacto gun-registration program.

    When a company BUYS more than $600 in goods or services in a year it has to issue a 1099 to the vendor.

    When an individual buys more than $600 in goods or services they don’t have to file Jack.

    If i’m a gun dealer buying guns valued more than $600 I have to issue 1099s to whoever sold them to me, but even if I buy that gun from a private party it only tells the gummint that he maybe used to have a gun or guns worth more than $600. It will create a pile of new paperwork documenting manufacturer to wholesaler to dealer transactions, but not so much dealer to private individual.

  2. > Wasn’t it gols last week?

    Yup.

    > I don’t see it as becomming a defacto gun-registration program.

    I wish I could be so optimistic.

    Still, if this comes to pass in the worst way, there’s an easy fix for low-level sales: sell the gun in chunks worth less than $600 each.

  3. If you purchase a firearm in America it is, in point of fact, registered. This 1099 bullshit is just that, bullshit. Going to be A LOT of Americans telling them to go fuck themselves.

  4. Firearm registration is a senisble idea, what could go wrong?

  5. It occurs to me that this 1099 thing is going to hit pawn shops the hardest. Anytime someone comes in to pawn something they are going to have to collect a tax ID and they are going to have to track that so that if anyone pawns more than $600 of crap in a year they can send a 1099.

  6. Huron? I personally believe that every person in America who wants to vote should have a registered firearm and a certificate proving they have been checked out in how to safely handle it and proficiently use it. Issued at the end of 20 hour course in high school and valid for life, all for $10.

    Also, if you wish not to possess a firearm and still want to vote you should be allowed to get a waiver, and renew it each year for $10,000, that will sort the wheat from the chaff as far as adhering to those pacifist, anti-gun morals!

  7. > sell the gun in chunks worth less than $600 each.

    That still wouldn’t work, unless you bought each chunk in a different year. I thought the new law was that if the TOTAL of goods bought from an individual vendor was $600 or more per year, then a form would have to be filed.

  8. “Firearm registration is a senisble idea, what could go wrong?”

    Parisian Jews, 1940: The government just wants to know who its citizens are; what could possibly go wrong?

    “Issued at the end of 20 hour course in high school and valid for life, all for $10.”

    A nice thought, but you honestly trust public high schools to teach gun safety? They can’t even teach kids how to read.

    I say that we start trading for guns in troy oz of gold and silver, as those people in MI have started bartering in silver. That way it is a barter transaction, not a monetary one, and as such goes outside government purview. And yes, I realize that this probably would not work… but the thought is pleasant, isn’t it?

  9. I won der how the various state efforts (Utah and Montana spring to mind) to exempt guns made and sold in-state from FedLaw will deal with this…

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