Jul 192009
Some parts will not be printed (tubing, platic sheet, etc) and thus aren’t shown here. The long rectangle in the last image is a scale bar… 1 cm wide by 50 cm long.
What this needs is an in-scale Archangel Michael… hmmm…
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When you first said Orion I thought you meant Orion from the novel Footfall.
Is this going to be available anytime in the near future?
Indeed it does need an in-scale Archangel Michael. With spurt lasers and gun turrets off the battleship New Jersey. Just like the scale drawings you host on this site.
Did you ever see Rhys Taylor’s conceptual Orion warships?
http://www.rhysy.net/DSF/
> Is this going to be available anytime in the near future?
Early 2010, I understand.
> Rhys Taylor’s conceptual Orion
Some nice rendering work, but I’ve got issues with a number of the design aspects.
> it does need an in-scale Archangel Michael
If the Orion Battleship sells like crazy, an Archangel Michael is almost assured (if not through FP, then I’ll do it myself). But the Orion will have to sell a lot of units to merit the introduction of a similar sort of model.
>Some nice rendering work, but I’ve got issues with a number of the design aspects.
Well, that’s because he did not have you as a resource person. The limited help I could offer him is the only reason the spacecraft have heat radiators.
Hi Scott, There’s a couple things that I’d recommend. SLA parts get expensive when
1. The parts are tall. You’re being charged for build time on the machine. Sometimes it’s faster to cure a layer, that it is to sweep it level after each build pass.
2. Mass. The resin is very expensive.
3. post processing time. The more parts there are, the more time needs to be spent removing them from the build platform. The smaller parts or parts that are thinner than .030″ run the risk of not building or getting broken when removed from the build supports.
4. Programing time. They have to take your parts and lay them out for building as close together as possible to get the most builds on a platform. If you have lots of parts, they have to lay them all out and that would get expensive. The trick is to put as much of the model together even if its done like a injection molded kit where all the parts are connected. instead of 100 parts to layout, it’d be cheaper to do 10. After the parts are laid out, the program slices the parts into build layers. This is where they find defects in non solid parts, then they have to go in and fix them.
5. The orientation of each part affects the surface quality because of where the supports are, the build layers vs. the surface geometry.
6. if you have them sand and bead blast the parts, that would add a bunch of cost to the #of parts you have. Strip and ship is they remove the supports, check the dimensions and fix any errors. Finishing SLA parts is easy.
I’m sure what is shown is the entire kit and alot of the parts can be done with only one master. But if you were to have everything built and sanded/beadblasted to a 320 finish, just looking I’d guess about $2,500 for the build. It could be a lot less with some editting and planning, because at that price you could buy a CarveWright and stl converter.
JP
What’s shown here is the complete parts layout that the modeler will get (minus the parts that aren’t going to be stereolithed), not necessarily what will get sent to the print company. What they’ll get will certainly be a truncated version of these parts.
I was unaware of the need to sprue the parts together to reduce cost. I’ll certainly get on *that.*
The lifting body RVs resemble the Krafft Ehricke ones from the Hawk Atlas space station model.
> RVs resemble the Krafft Ehricke ones
Somewhat. Keep in mind, too, that both were designed by General Dynamics at about the same time. Ehricke also had input on the later Orion program, so that there might be some family resemblance should not be surprising.
That orion model kit is good enough to be a retcon Michael for a Footfall Movie on its own. Omit shuttles, and have the Constellation Orion capsule shown docking with the armed pulse Orion you are modeling now.
By having the name Orion mean two different things, you could have a surprise in store for the viewers.
I would make the stovepipe be an NSWR-pumped gamma ray laser that would be relased from the sides of the Orion battleship.
Rhys Soviet Orion looks pretty nice at least.
I’m not half the expert that other commenters seem to be, but this looks like it’s super awesome! I can’t wait to buy one!
I have a stupid question about the Michael design: how do they keep the turrets from the New Jersey attached to the ship? Battleship main battery turrets weren’t held onto the ship by anything except gravity. Bismarck lost all four of her main battery turrets when she sank because she turned turtle.
> how do they keep the turrets from the New Jersey attached to the ship?
Magic. Otherwise, undefined.