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Part Two of the Rock Island Arsenal collection.

Grenade launchers:

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Old school rifles:

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Subguns and shotguns:

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Submachineguns and assault rifles:

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 Posted by at 11:10 pm

  8 Responses to “More Guns, Guns, Guns….”

  1. Boy, if it’s something oddball, they have it in their collection, don’t they? 🙂
    I can identify around 1/4 of those things.
    It would be fun to know what # 5895 in photo three is; it looks impressive and science-fictioney.
    I think some of those in photo four are ground-use versions of aircraft machineguns.
    The Germans did some of those in WW II.

  2. Pat, #5895 in the 3rd photo is a High Standard Model 10 shotgun.

    http://world.guns.ru/shotgun/sh26-e.htm

  3. 5895, that’s a High Standard HS-10 Shotgun, made in the US of A.

    In photo 4 only 5834 reminds me of the classic MG42, somewhat at least. Problem is, the basic idea was quite common (still is, take the MG3.) Steyr-Solothurn MG30 looks somewhat similar as well.

    5831 looks pretty badass, is that a grenade launcher under the barrel?

  4. I think 5834 may be a German 7.92 mm MG-15 aircraft defense machinegun converted for ground use. There’s a photo of a very similar conversion in the US Government “Handbook on German Military Forces” from WWII.
    The really strange one is in the middle on the bottom of that photo, which seems designed to fire a small-calibre bullet at very high velocity via simple blowback operation, sort of a super Sten Gun. The one directly above it also seems designed for high velocity with a small bullet.
    5831 sure would get your attention if someone was pointing it at you; it does indeed look like it has some sort of magazine-fed grenade launcher under the barrel.
    The clip-fed M79 grenade launcher varients in photo one are interesting, though probably clumsy to carry around in the jungle with the loaded clip in place.

  5. > #5895 in the 3rd photo is a High Standard Model 10 shotgun

    The Model 10A, yup. I have a Model 10B, which differs largely in removing the large flashlight. It’s entertaining as hell to shoot, but it has a fairly small capacity… four shots. Bleah.

    I failed to photograph the catalog, something I’d intended to do. But it’s a giant undertaking… as memory serves, the catalog had about two pages per item (form pages). Not a simple listing.

  6. >The really strange one is in the middle on the bottom of that photo, which seems designed to fire a small-calibre bullet at very high velocity via simple blowback operation, sort of a super Sten Gun. The one directly above it also seems designed for high velocity with a small bullet.

    I’m wondering if they’re some kind of small calibre Anti-tank Rifle, similar to, but not, the british Boys Anti Tank Rifle….

  7. It’s got me going, that’s for sure.
    The one directly above it has sort of a Soviet look to it, although I haven’t been able to track it down either.
    The thing about anti-tank rifles is that they were generally very well made and quite heavy to take up the recoil of the high velocity bullet they fired; this thing looks really cheaply made, like some sort of sten machine gun, although why the barrel has to be so long is a very good question if that’s the intention.
    The fact that the bullets are going to come out of the barrel going at very high velocity indicates that the intention is to get very good range and accuracy, or, as you point out, a lot of penetration capability on impact.
    Though the concept sounds crazy, this thing would make a good cheapo sniper rifle, but you’d expect a pretty involved set of sights on that.

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