Nov 072017
 

I’m always amazed when westerners get in legal trouble in certain countries. My amazement generally comes less from them having committed whatever crime it was than from them having the terrible judgement that took them to those countries in the first place. Some nations should be simply *avoided* until they enter at least the 20th century in terms of legal systems.

Tourist faces death penalty for bringing husband’s pain pills to Egypt

 Posted by at 7:04 pm
  • Adam

    Yeah, I never could figure out why people venture into those hellholes to be honest.

    • Scottlowther

      Some people are adrenaline junkies, some think they are invincible, and some are just dimwits who either don’t understand that hiking in Afghanistan is not such a good idea, or think that the problems will somehow skip right on by them.

      • Paul451

        Egypt gets 10-15 million tourists per year. It’s hardly a destination for adrenaline junkies.

        • Scottlowther

          Imagine if instead of 10 million a year, Egypt got 10 a year. If their economy was sufficiently impacted, they *might* consider trying to change things. Of course they might consider sliding further into Jihadist territory, but that’s good too.

          Those 10-15 million tourists could spend their money in the civilized world. That would certainly be economic boosts for their home countries.

          • Paul451

            My point was you don’t get 15 million tourists a year because they are all “adrenaline junkies”. A significant proportion are elderly-dominated cruises and tours. The (literally) one-in-a-million death or legal issue doesn’t change that.

            (Extreme opiate laws often resulted from pressure from the west. Many Asian countries in my region here have similar laws, including death penalties, with similar or higher levels of tourism; including 20-somethings going to those countries solely for the party/rave/drug scenes.)

            Aside: Tourism is apparently just 3-4% of Egypt’s GDP. So it’s absence is hardly going to bankrupt them.

            Those 10-15 million tourists could spend their money in the civilized world.

            Where exactly do we draw the line? Have you travelled by air within the US recently? And I remember during the Atlanta Olympics, teams from civilised nations had to be warned about Georgia’s extreme religious-driven morality laws; lest behaviour that wouldn’t raise an eyebrow in their own country caused them to be arrested and potentially jailed for up to ten years.

          • Scottlowther

            > Tourism is apparently just 3-4% of Egypt’s GDP. So it’s absence is hardly going to bankrupt them.

            It won’t help. And the sudden loss of those tourists are going to make some fraction of the Egyptian public *unemployed,* and fairly permanently. Such things tend to snowball.

            > Have you travelled by air within the US recently?

            Nope, and I hope not to.

            > teams from civilised nations had to be warned about Georgia’s extreme
            religious-driven morality laws; lest behaviour that wouldn’t raise an
            eyebrow in their own country caused them to be arrested and potentially
            jailed for up to ten years.

            And had they been arrested, would they have been jailed for ten years without a reasonable legal proceeding in advance? And what were the laws in question?

          • Paul451

            Have you travelled by air within the US recently?

            Nope, and I hope not to.

            So what counts as a “civilised” country? New Zealand, Canada and the Netherlands?

          • Scottlowther

            A few preliminary tests:
            1: Do they have anti-blasphemy laws? If so… not civilized.
            2: Do they have laws restricting other forms of free, non-violent expression? If so, not civilized. (sorry Canada, your various Human Rights Commissions and Tribunals are contrary to civilization)
            3: Do they have laws restricting things like standard capacity magazines? If so, not civilized… their own government have determined that their own people are so dangerous that they can’t be trusted with basic items.

            4: Do they promote nuclear power? If not, they’re not civilized, since they want to slide backwards technologically with a resulting planetary death toll measured in billions.
            5: Do they spend more than half of one percent of their time and budgets on soccer? If so, not civilized.

      • Barmaglot

        As Paul451 said, Egypt is a significant tourist destination. Pyramids aside, Red Sea is one of the world’s premier SCUBA diving areas.

  • se jones

    Death penalty? Christ…don’t give Chris Christie any ideas.

  • xvdougl

    Sounds like she’d been there several times too. I generally like to familiarize myself with this kind of info before crossing borders. Tramadol isn’t morphine but I wouldn’t bring aspirin without checking…..