Nov 012017

Since yesterdays Cultural Enrichment Event in New York, I’ve heard more than a few politicians on the right argue that the driver should be dealt with not as a criminal, but as an enemy combatant. from a certain point of view this kinda makes sense… the guy is not a US citizen and he was pledged to a foreign political entity and an alien ideology. But the thing is, though… if he’s an enemy combatant,that makes him a prisoner of war. And there are two problems I have with that:

1: There is dignity and honor in being a POW. This feller has neither.

2: POWs go home.

There are two preferable outcomes for the driver after a proper trial: execution or life in a deep dark hole. Can’t execute a POW. The upside, though, is that POWs go home when the war’s over… but this war? I can’t see how it will *ever* be over. Who’s the leader on the Surt Worshipping Cultist side? Who has the power and authority to surrender or draw up an armistice? And even if someone did, does anyone honestly think that the attacks would stop, the radical would de-radicalize, the jihadists would convert to quiet Lutheranism, Mecca would become a world famous tourist attraction known for its welcoming acceptance of all creeds? No, this war is never going to end, so the POWs would remain POWs forever… or until some weak-willed administration decided to trade them away.

Treat the guy like what he is: a criminal. A good, honest trial followed by a life sentence in general population.

 Posted by at 7:59 pm
  • Herp McDerp

    If I understand things properly (and I might not) there are two sorts of enemy combatants: Those who fight under the rules of the Geneva Conventions, and those who do not. Among the admission criteria for the former group is the requirement that the combatant wear some sort of uniform, or at least some clothing element such as an arm band that indicates his allegiance. The combatant in question also must be fighting on behalf of a signatory to the Geneva Conventions.

    Those who do not, such as spies and saboteurs, are not protected by the Conventions. You can do whatevr you want to them, including summary execution. In the past, U.S. courts have extended the protections for the Conventions to illegal combatants, but that’s legal interpretation of American law … and legislation or new court cases could change that.

    The self-proclaimed ISIS combatants, here and abroad, do not conform to the Geneva Conventions. To hell with ’em.

    • Thucydides_of_Athens

      Exactly correct. He is fighting for an alien cause and against the United States, but he is not a soldier (in any sense of the term) and is therefore not protected by the Geneva conventions. This is the same reasoning why all those other illegal combatants are incarcerated in “Gitmo”.

      I suppose as a domestic terrorist (i.e. on US soil and carrying a valid visa) you could make arguments like he should be incarcerated for 25+ years and then sent back to his point of origin, but I’ll let lawyers argue that point. (It also raises the issue: what if Uzbekistan has no desire for him to be repatriated?)

      • sferrin

        “(It also raises the issue: what if Uzbekistan has no desire for him to be repatriated?)”

        Then you throw his carcass out the back of a C-5 over Usbekistan with a parachute that may or may not open.

    • Michael

      He claimed to be *part of an organization* that called for the destruction of the USA. What would have happened to a lone Japanese soldier, out of uniform, in America in 1943?

  • Brianna

    Life sentence? Given that he killed multiple people and there’s no doubt he is guilty, I see no problem with the death penalty in this case.

    • Michael

      There’s another way to have a life sentence. POWs don’t go back until the war is over. If they don’t quit we don’t have to give back their persons. Or the bodies of their dead, for that matter. Their “soldiers” — dead or alive — can just vanish forever.

  • se jones


    Change of venue to Utah. Firing squad thank you.

    • publiusr

      Firing squad is too noble an end.

      That’s for someone who refuses a hood and a smoke–with his last words being “This is how a MAN dies.”

      Revolutionaries with at least some valor deserve to go out that way. Not him.

      Just an anonymous shiv’ thank you.

  • Michel Van

    Execute him ? No way !
    The Belgians want him, he killed 4 of them in NY
    Let’s them have him, believe me the Uzbekistan wish he would be dead,
    once he set foot on Belgian soil…

  • Paul451

    1: There is dignity and honor in being a POW. This feller has neither.
    2: POWs go home.

    Even if he was labelled an enemy-combatant, it wouldn’t mean he gets released “after” the conflict. He intentionally targeted civilians, which is still a war-crime.