Oct 142017

For all the arguments about whether the BFR-based suborbital/fractional-orbital transport system is technologically or economically feasible, there’s one firm argument that can be made that says that it’ll never become successful: the TSA and similar government bureaucracies.

New Rule: Residents In Nine States Will Need Passports For Domestic Flights in 2018

If you are a resident of Kentucky, Maine, Minnesota, Missouri, Montana, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina or Washington, come January 22, 2018, you’ll actually need to have something like a passport to hop a flight to somewhere else in the US, because your state issued drivers license/ID card ain’t up to federal snuff. Come October 1, 202, other states may also no longer be able to use their drivers licenses.

According to the DHS, here’s a current map of which states are in compliance. Presumably a lot of the states in blue – under review – will be approved by 2020, but who knows.

 Posted by at 4:25 pm
  • FelixA9

    Given that Kalifornia gives out DLs to illegal aliens, if they pass everybody should.

  • allen

    so, how long before you’ll need papers to board a train? a bus? cross a state line?


    this is no longer about safety. safety is when you keep people from boarding with stuff that can hurt other passengers or damage the aircraft. this is soviet-style control.

  • Michel Van

    Just one question from a German:
    Means this. the USA stop to exist as Federal state and become a Confederated states ?

  • George Allegrezza

    It’s nothing “new”, it’s the Real ID Act. Been on the books for a while, it’s just that these states continue to kick the can down the road in terms of tightening up identity requirements for DLs. The fact that many of these states, including my own, have a large population of undocumented immigrants is not unrelated.

    The problem of course is that we use DLs as an ID method rather than an actual ID card. I’m not a fan of ID cards, but I don’t have a better answer other than getting states to comply with the Real ID criteria.

    • sferrin

      You spelled, “illegal aliens” wrong.

  • Tybarious

    And yet, we can’t issue Voter ID cards b/c that’s racist or whatever the left will claim, saying it causes undo burden on poor and/or minorities. How is this is not causing undo burden? I am all for a real ID to be used for things like this. I just don’t like hypocrisy of causing it for one and not the other.

    • George Allegrezza

      Me too, for the record. My only issue is the states screaming about the unfairness of it all, while having had a decade to figure it out. Hypocrisy, indeed.

  • Ulrich Brasche III

    most of the states “under review” have explicitly halted government employee work based travel to other states based on perceived “civil rights violation” laws. if you had classes or work conference or vendor or client research to do, you either drop the whole thing or pay out of pocket. The liberal states fired the first shot a LONG time ago. now they get the same back that they created? too bad.