Oct 072017
 

Non-Americans and anti-American Americans are currently yammering on about how the US needs to get rid of the right to bear arms and other basic Constitutional rights, in the doomed pursuit of a slight decrease in the crime rate. Many of these people disdain “Constitutional absolutists.” But without that absolutism, you get this:

Amber Rudd: viewers of online terrorist material face 15 years in jail

As described, if you “repeatedly view terrorist content online” you  “could face up to 15 years behind bars.” Assuming the article is accurately written, simply viewing material that the government doesn’t like can get you tossed into the hoosegow. But worry not, gentle blog readers, the intent is narrowly focussed:

“I want to make sure those who view despicable terrorist content online, including jihadi websites, far-right propaganda and bomb-making instructions, face the full force of the law”

So, only jihadi websites, anything to the right of Lenin and basic chemistry. What’s to worry about?

 Posted by at 7:57 pm
  • Adam

    But muh Australia!

  • Peter Hanely

    I have one question for the gun grabbers, censors, et al: are you willing to apply the same standard to yourselves and the people standing between you and the barbarian hoards? No? Didn’t think so.

  • allen

    the problem comes when these companies like youtube, in an effort to comply with everyone, applies these bans universally. they’re already doing this.

  • Unsubscriber

    >anything to the right of Lenin

    You do realise Amber Rudd is the Home Secretary in the UK which has a Tory (right wing) Government? Basically you’re accusing her of being a Communist. Do you realise how naive and silly that sounds to anybody born outside of the US?

    • Scottlowther

      > Do you realise how naive and silly that sounds to anybody born outside of the US?

      The more I hear that idiotic phrase, the less I care.

      • Unsubscriber

        That is your choice but does demonstrate something about you and your viewpoint…

        • KellyFromMesquite

          Demonstrates what? Your lack of facts demonstrates why we “deplorables” look askance at your politics and social values. It also demonstrates why we’re also so glad that our ancestors chose a new life here in America.

          • Unsubscriber

            Guess what? The rest of the world is glad your ancestors did that too. America is one giant lunatic asylum as far as I can tell. I think we should just stop all flights, all ships, everything from coming from there. It’d do all of us a whole load of good.

          • Scottlowther

            Hmmm, an interesting idea. As an experiment, let’s start small, by blocking the importation of trolls from (checks IP address… hmmm, shocker) Australia.

        • FelixA9

          Yes, it does. That we’re happy over here and don’t give a shit about what other countries think.

        • allen

          yes, it does. it demonstrates our ancestors were in their right minds when they looked around europe and said “let’s get the hell out of here…these people are all insane”

          we are not put on this earth to please europe. in fact, we’ve demonstrated multiple times that europe isn’t adult enough to be left to it’s own devices without major corrections involving massive loss of life.

          we went through that phase and haven’t had that problem since 1856.

        • Scottlowther

          > That is your choice

          How magnanimous of you.

          > demonstrate something about you and your viewpoint…

          It demonstrates that I do not feel bound to agree with the majority simply because it is the majority. Argumentum ad populum is invalid.

          • Unsubscriber

            Ah, then why do you bother?

          • Scottlowther

            Your confusion on that simple question is the sort of thing that *should* cause you to question your basic assumptions.

          • Unsubscriber

            Oh, I do, Everytime I log onto the Internet. It’s full of crazies and conspiracists and of course, the odd Nazi, Communist and Totalitarian. I find them all amusing. Very amusing.

          • Scottlowther

            That’s the company you keep, I suppose.

    • Herp McDerp

      You don’t find it interesting that she didn’t condemn far-left websites? Or if far-left websites are included in her ban, what else that she didn’t mention is also included?

      By the way, what is a “far-right” website? What are its defining characteristics? Where is the line between the permitted and the forbidden? Inquiring minds want to know! Last year some British politicians wanted to bar a visit from that fascist barbarian Donald Trump — on which side of the line would he be?

      • Unsubscriber

        Anything to the right of the Tory Party’s views – which are pretty draconian anyway – would satisfy her views on what constitutes a “far Right website”. I suppose something like a Nazi Party website would fit the bill. You know the sites where they propose gassing people they hate like Jews or Muslims or Black people.

        • allen

          nazis are left wing. socialism is a left wing idea. mussolini, hitler, and FDR were sending love letters to each other, each wishing they were more like the other.

          • Unsubscriber

            Funny how the rest of the world disagrees with you. The Nazi party are considered Right Wing because they were Right Wing when they were formed in the 1920s. Perhaps you need to keep up with what the rest of the world is thinking about political theory?

          • allen

            funny how the rest of the world wants to call the nazis “right wing” to cover up how close their own policies are to what the nazis wanted to accomplish.

            socialism is a left wing idea. the nazis were, by their own admission, socialists. you cannot deny that.

          • Unsubscriber

            Such silly naivety. I don’t think the rest of the world cares what you believe because it has actually experienced what the Nazis were doing and they know what they were. They don’t like the Nazis one little bit. Tell you what, why don’t you create a Nazi polity. Oh, wait, the USA is very much like a Nazi polity anyway…

        • Scottlowther

          > Anything to the right of the Tory Party’s views – which are pretty
          draconian anyway – would satisfy her views on what constitutes a “far
          Right website”.

          And once the vague law is in place, and the Conservatives are replaced in the next election by Labour or Socialists or Greens or Commies or whatever, *then* what will define “far right?”

          The whole idea of making it illegal to read political stuff is disturbing at best. And even if you think things will be set up so that your side is favored, don’t bet on your side staying in power forever.

          • Unsubscriber

            Oh, I think you’re starting to get the idea. However, the point is that she represents a party that has formed the present Government in the UK and under the UK Westminster System of government, as long as they command the largest number of seats in their Parliament, they get to pass what ever laws they like. I am unsure why you’re worried, unless you perceive yourself as being more right wing than the Dries in the British Tory Party…

          • Scottlowther

            > I am unsure why you’re worried

            Who said I’m worried? Your confusion on that simple point is the sort of thing that *should* cause you to question your basic assumptions.

          • Unsubscriber

            You post all about Amber Rudd’s comments and claim she doesn’t know what she is talking about. That sounds worried to me. You’re never going to the UK, in fact I doubt you’ve ever been outside the US, ever so I am unsure what you’re worried about happening outside the borders of the US. Afterall, your blog is fool of naive and rather silly comments about a world you claim you don’t care about…

    • allen

      english “right wing” isn’t the same as american “right wing”

      • Unsubscriber

        I have come to that conclusion. Problem is, the labels are the same and it appears someone here doesn’t want to use the labels properly. The rest of the world disagrees with his viewpoint but he doesn’t care.

        • allen

          “The rest of the world disagrees with his viewpoint but he doesn’t care”

          you’re still missing the point. we don’t care what the rest of the world thinks.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXjqTyQuq4w

        • Herp McDerp

          The rest of the world disagrees with his viewpoint but he doesn’t care.

          “One should respect public opinion insofar as is necessary to avoid
          starvation and keep out of prison, but anything that goes beyond this is
          voluntary submission to an unnecessary tyranny.”
          — Bertrand Russell

  • Herp McDerp
    • Herp McDerp

      Oh, fudge. I need a DWIM keyboard.