Jan 192015

Project Blue Book was the US Air Force project to study UFO reports and try to make sense of them and determine if there was any sort of threat to the security of the US. In 1969 the project wrapped up with a “nope” and a shrug, but nevertheless kept a whole bunch of stuff classified. A lot of researchers have been driven to distraction by the classified status of the documentation and have spent years making FOIA requests. The National Archives has made a whole lot of these documents available on microfilm, but one feller went ahead and scanned them and has made them available as 130,000 pages of searchable PDFs.

Air Force UFO files hit the web

The files are supposedly available on the website “The Black Vault,” but right now all I’m getting is a “this page cannot be loaded” message. I’d bet good money that the site simply got swamped with an exceedingly large number of people who want to download the docs. Or, you know, reptillian overlords. Whichever.

 Posted by at 1:19 pm
  • xvdougl

    So do you think we’re interesting enough for a visit? The steal our resources angle seems lame in the face of the math. Study and/or extermination seem more likely. Ounce of prevention…..

    My response to most personal accounts I’ve heard is generally, “I believe that you believe you saw that”.

    Of course they would have an amazing unwanted projects blog.

    • Scottlowther

      > So do you think we’re interesting enough for a visit?

      If interstellar travel is “Star Wars” level easy, sure. Otherwise, no. On the gripping hand, if someone long ago figured how how to build self-replicating robots and sublight fusion drives… sure, why not. We might get visit from robots.

      • publiusr

        And may not even know it. The one video that really stands out was that Great Daylight Fireball in 1972 over the Tetons.

        I’ve never seen something from space leave a contrail that long–and unbroken.

        Peekskill? Pieces

        Chelyabinsk? Flared, then pieces.
        Teton? As smooth and as laminar as a babies bottom–Leonov aerobrake style.
        And I say that advisedly–the Teton bolide was to do a resonant return to Earth in the 1990s.
        Now, chances are, it was just a very rich nickel/iron body that happened to do exactly the type of aerobrake a Bracewell/von Neuman probe would do.

  • Bruce

    check out “Pirna disc” on google. Check out the website on it, and also go through the
    links too. It tells all about all kinds of projects done here on earth and how a lot of the
    so called “alien spaceships” were actually ours or maybe Russia during the cold war years.

    • Scottlowther

      > It tells all about all kinds of projects

      Lots of websites tell lots of tall tales. Claiming that any measurable fraction of UFO sightings were due to circular-winged aircraft is not just factually wrong, it’s silly… circular aircraft simply don;t work very well.

  • Rick

    I had an old UFO photo book from my father, printed sometime in the late 60’s.

    One of the biggest UFO “identifiers” was witnesses seeing lights but nothing on radar.

    I wish I hadn’t lost that book, but a number of blurry aircraft photos were (to me) identifiable as related to declassified “stealth” projects either by NATO or Warsaw Pact countries.

    One that comes to mind was a side profile strongly resembling Tacit Blue.

    A lot of that stuff was classified because it was ours in development, or us not wanting to admit something of theirs got through, or something of ours we didn’t want to admit we were testing somewhere we weren’t supposed to be.

  • Bruce

    In lieu of the success of the V-173 though, I wonder how the success of the XF5U-1 might
    have been considering the fact that we never at least test flew the thing but how instead
    ending up under a wrecking ball seemed kind of a waste to me. At least if there was any
    problems with it, the pilot could have bailed out and when it crashed it would have been
    a pile of burnt metal but at least it would have died a respectful death.

  • RolandoG

    Here is a UFO Scott you may be able to comment on. No doubt you have heard of the Cash Landrum Incident. It occurred near Dayton, Texas in 1980, with the result of two women and a boy being irradiated with some lasting medical effects. The report is that they were blocked on a lonely road by an aircraft was apparently in distress, shaped like a diamond, and trailed a very hot gaseous exhaust. The craft was being followed by a number of helicopters.

    The intriguing part is that instead of a UFO, there is a theory that the craft could have been an experimental nuclear aircraft called the WASP II, which had somehow gone awry and lost control over a desolate highway in the woods on the road to Dayton. The number of military helicopters-23 CH-47s so stated, obviously hints that the US military was involved. While there were small nuclear reactors being developed in the 50s, 60s and 70s for use in nuclear bomber aircraft like the NB-36H and the god forbid Project Pluto doomsday nuclear ramjet, the the possibility this was a black project is not so far fetched.

    I recall a rocket powered troop carrier (looking like a DCX rocket) that was proposed that was designed to quickly launch, do a sub-orbital coast, and then land at the landing zone anywhere on Earth was on the drawing board, but like many projects it never reached the building stage.

    The WASP I was a single troop carrier (Williams Aerial Systems Platform) that was tested in the 1980s. Any thoughts on this possibility?

    • Scottlowther

      That particular UFO is oft-told, described in some detail on Wiki:

      Basically, the best explanation for the incident is… “Shrug. Dunno.”

      As for a nuclear powered aircraft: Basically… nope. The idea of a nuclear powered aircraft developed in secret, for such a fundamentally silly role as troop transport, and somehow it “goes awry?” Only in bad sci-fi.When experimental aircraft screw up, they *crash,* they don’t hover over highways then fly off under escort.

      As one of the experts quoted in the Wiki article points out, if they had actually gotten a dose of radiation so high that they got radiation sickness that fast, they’d be dead in days. instead, they lived on for years. Chemical poisoning is more likely, especially if you couple it with the placebo effect.Make someone ill, convince they they had a miraculous experience BUT they’ve been radiation poisoned… it’s not unlikely that they will make themselves feel the symptoms they expect.

      • RolandoG

        I have to admit I considered the radiation vs chemical issue that had been brought up by several experts, including the arguments about the type of radiation that could have caused the medical symptoms and not caused death. Chemical is likely a better candidate. I have great doubts, as some UFO investigators have pointed out, the women could have marred themselves in order to provide proof of the experience. Considering the financial difficulties the youngest woman experienced after the encounter, I find this unbelievable, even in the light that she refused to release her prior medical records to public scrutiny. Hell, who would not?

        But it is known there were witnesses of the helicopters in the area that prove they Chinooks were looking for something. In light of the theory I find it more believable it was some sort of experimental craft rather than a UFO, whatever it’s intended purpose. There are even suggestions it could have been a craft similar to the Lenticular Reentry Vehicle (LVR) (as seen in Fantastic Plastic), but comparing characteristics, I find that also unlikely. One who’s initial design description ( a diamond the size of a water tower) defies a specific use.

        An intriguing case. And something just as tangible than the JAL 1628 affair.

        • Scottlowther

          > I have great doubts, as some UFO investigators have pointed out, the
          women could have marred themselves in order to provide proof of the

          People will do some crazy stuff for attention. Munchhausen By Proxy is a real thing.

          > In light of the theory I find it more believable it was some sort of experimental craft rather than a UFO

          Problem: too many “experiments” at once. not only an experimental configuration, but it’s spewing out mystery chemical as well? If it was an advanced aircraft configuration, it would use chemicals needed for performance… fuel, in other words. There are some nasty fuels, but none you’d likely use for high performance.

          And if it was a leaky chem-warfare weapon, why the goofy configuration?

          Who knows what they saw & experienced. Maybe all they really saw was helicopters on maneuvers, then they drove through an unrelated chemical leak. Two unusual but mundane events, unlikely but hardly impossible to occur in close proximity, end up producing a “miraculous” interpretation.