Jan 302012

New Jersey: Assembly Committee to Consider Ammo Ban & More

Short form: Assemblyman L. Grace Spencer (go ahead and guess which party) is sponsoring bills that would allow the Attorney General to ban any  ammunition he wants.  All that’s required is that the guy simply determines that the ammo:

…poses a threat to the safety and well being of law enforcement officers because of the materials, be they metallic or nonmetallic, used in its composition or because its ogive, core or jacket are of a design, construction or formulation which makes it capable of breaching or penetrating body armor


Since “body armor” is left undefined… *any* ammunition is thus vulnerable to being banned by fiat from an unelected bureaucrat.

 Posted by at 3:29 pm
  • Jordan

    So does that mean they’ll also ban knives, since a knife is more effective against body armor than ammo?

    The problem isn’t with ammo, but idiots who use guns and weapons in the wrong way.Instead of banning ammo, ban IDIOTS from using guns!

    Since they are so concerned with the welfare of law enforcement officers, they should ban cars then. For the safety and welfare of police officers they should not be allowed to drive their patrol cars anymore. Can you see the stupidity of banning ammo yet?

  • Michael the Somewhat Civilized

    The bad guys will put pepper spray in Super-Soakers.

    • Anonymous

      Actually, I’ve been thinking about the possibility of modified paint gun pellets. Specifically, pellets filled with a slurry of oil (mineral spirits, kerosene, Vaseline, something), aluminum powder and rust as a thermite charge. For ignition, a small amount of phosphorus, sodium or lithium that will combust when exposed to air. It would go “splat” and probably take a few seconds to get going as the igniter is still covered by oil; the natural human impulse to wipe it off would probably speed up the process as well as add thermitey napalm to the targets hands.

      Evil? Yeah, probably, but an interesting engineering challenge.

      Ammo you’d want to be kinda careful with…

      • allen

        hmm.. dispense with the gelatin shell and go with a harder plastic. you’d need more velocity to break them (just crank up the CO2 or air), but you don’t want them blowing up in the gun either. how about instead of thermite and the fuel/slurry (which might become unbalanced and unstable in flight if it settles) just go with powdered magnesium. loaded into the shell under some pressure, in the same manner as the pepper balls, with an ignition pellet in the middle it should work fine, fly straight and provide a nice little Screaming Alpha.

        the pellets themselves would also provide a nice anti-light vehicle road coverage. run over one and suddenly your tires are ignited.

        • Anonymous

          > how about instead of thermite and the fuel/slurry (which might become unbalanced and unstable in flight if it settles) just go with powdered magnesium

          Powdered magnesium would on impact form a cloud and might or might not all ignite. Even if it did ignite, much of it would ignite at some distance from the target. The thermite, being in a slurry form, would largely stick to the target (if composed properly) and burn *right* *there.* Thus the *target* would be on fire, rather than the air a few feet from the target.

          While it is not to be doubted that a cloud of magnesium powder a few feet in diameter suddenly igniting in the air would prove a damned dangerous and impressive weapon, the damage to the target would be via radiation. A splat of thermite directly on the target would do damage via conduction… far more effective. Such a system might even be of value against hardened targets like vehicles.

          • Michael the Somewhat Civilized

            If nothing else, the threatened legislation has brought to the fore a great deal of imagination.

            I made some thermite (or what I was told was thermite) when I was 14. There was a place in the back yard that didn’t have any grass for four years. My parents never knew why.