Apr 302014
 

Saudi Arabia criticises Norway over human rights record

The Saudis big beef with Norway? They haven’t made it a crime to criticize religion, and Mohammad in particular. Norwegian Foreign Minister Børge Brende is quoted:

“It is a paradox that countries which do not support fundamental human rights have influence on the council, but that is the United Nations.”

It is long since past time that the whole idea of the United Nations be rethought. Rather than a collection of *every* nation, no matter how backwards, barbaric or just plain stupid and evil, getting together with everyone having a vote, what the western world should instead focus on are allegiances such as NATO. Exclusionary groups that choose to allow counties in based not on mere existence, but on a  shared set of values. And making it illegal to criticize some centuries-dead phoney should be a cause for exclusion.

Leave the UN as a place where combatants can come together to negotiate, and otherwise get rid of it as a bad idea.

 

 Posted by at 7:59 pm
  • Anon

    A friendly reminder that those poor wittle chechens who big bad eeeevil Putin was attacking were also Sharia-imposing head-chopping wahhabi-fundamentalists

    • Anonymous

      Yes, indeed. So what does it say about Putin that the Chechens side now clearly looks to be the right one?

      • Herp McDerp

        Why can’t they both lose?

        • Anonymous

          Soviets Vs Nazis, Iran vs. Iraq, Putin vs Jihadis, ChiComs vs jihadis…

      • Anon

        Barack Obama, George Soros and Harry Reid agree with you completely

        • Anonymous

          As do George W. Bush, George Patton, Christina Hendricks, Vlad Tepes, Erik the Red, Jesus Christ and Apollonius of Tyana.

          • Anon

            So now we are now supporting liberals and their war on Russia via neo-nazi occupy-Kiev thugs? Cuz that sure did work great in Libya and Syria…

          • Anonymous

            > So now we are now supporting liberals and their war on Russia via neo-nazi occupy-Kiev thugs?

            Wow! So you have a fully functioning quantum computer? Because clearly you are posting from an alternate reality with a different history from this one.

          • Anon
          • Aeroman

            “There are no Neo-nazis in Ukraine” my fucking ass, John Kerry. Funny how facts and footage kinda get in the way of the Obamanation and his European Union socialist cronies!

          • Anonymous

            If we hit that bullseye, the rest of the dominoes should fall like a house of cards. Checkmate.

            http://up-ship.com/blog/blog/?p=19216

            Still, it’s an interesting parallel reality you must live in.

          • Anon

            Neo-Nazis having a presence in Russia = Neo-nazis literally using occupy wall street terrorist tactics in Kiev and taking posts in the government security apparatus

            LOL WUT?

          • Anonymous

            What’s *really* LOL-worthy is westerners wetting their pants over a few “neo-Nazis” in Ukraine, when the Russians are *actually* gobbling up neighboring territory.

            Getting upset about a *tiny* number of fascists in Ukraine is like getting upset about the tiny number of actual nuts in the limited-government movement in the US. The documentary linked by that brave soul “Anon” even points out that the revolution was overwhelmingly by regular folks.

          • Anon

            “was overwhelmingly by regular folks”

            No one is doubting that, but just like the Reichstag fire, the National Socialists in Ukraine, who are being supported financially by the European Union and Obama socialists, took advantage of the chaos and now occupy a few high positions in government. These same people belong to a party that has called for the death of Jews and ethnic Russians, the same party which back in WW2 collaborated with the German Nazi occupiers. Also the Republic of Crimea voted to join Russia. If American colonies can declare independence, then Crimea had even more of a legit reasoning to do so, since it was not a colony but it’s own separate state within Ukraine. Let us also now throw into the mix that Warsaw pact was dissolved and Russia allowed all the former satellites of the USSR to peacefully leave in return for no NATO expansion, which Bush senior promised as president. But the Bush and Clinton dynasties decided instead that Russia must be forced to accept western liberalism by force, hence NATO moved right up to Russia’s doorsteps. Now the western media has been given the script to read to the sheep that Russia must be punished for not allowing homosexual propaganda and that Russia is an aggressor because they dare defend themselves against an anti-Russian alliance and missile shield on their borders aimed at them

          • Anonymous

            > If American colonies can declare independence, then Crimea had even more of a legit reasoning to do so

            And so we’re back to Chechnya.

            >dare defend themselves against an anti-Russian alliance and missile shield on their borders aimed at them

            Do you have *any* idea how friggen’ stupid that sounds?

            “I had to hit my neighbor over the head and steal his car, because I saw him wearing a bullet proof vest.”

          • Anon

            >And so we’re back to Chechnya.

            American colonists were not suicide bombing operas and schools in London in 1776, whereas almost every major attack on Russian civilians since the collapse of the USSR was from Al-Qaeda (i.e. John McCain’s best friends in Syria) funded terrorist groups in Chechnya

            >Do you have *any* idea how friggen’ stupid that sounds?

            Gee, maybe Russia is just a teeny weeny itsy bitsy worried about Neo-Nazis on their doorstep cuz, um, they were fucking raped by Nazis back in this time called “World War 2”.

            Let’s say if occupy Mexico took over parts of their government and swore allegiance to Osama Bin Laden or Stalin and was threatening American citizens residing in Mexico you bet your butt I would approve us doing limited operations if they were necessary to protect lives, we do that all the time, just go to wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_United_States_military_operations) and see how often we send in troops overseas to countries that get unstable with Americans residing there

            Now let us compare the “expansion” game shall we?

            Territory added to Russia proper since fall of USSR: 1? (Crimea has not joined yet and it is still possibly up in the air)

            Territory added to NATO since fall of USSR: 12 (Czech Republic, Hungary, Poland, Bulgaria, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Albania, Croatia)

            2011 Russia military spending: 72 billion

            2011 USA military spending: 664 billion (notice that is just USA alone, not counting the rest of NATO which would probably put it easily above a trillion dollars)

            Russian overseas major military operations since fall of USSR: 0
            American overseas major military operations since fall of USSR: Kosovo/Serbia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Libya, Somalia

          • Anonymous

            > American colonists were not suicide bombing operas and schools in London in 1776

            Perhaps not, but John Paul Jones *did* try to burn the British town of Whitehaven.

            But that’s an irrelevant point. If you believe that a region has the right to simply up and leave due to local ethnic lines, then you believe that a region has the right to simply up and leave due to local ethnic lines. Please do try to be consistent.

            > Gee, maybe Russia is just a teeny weeny itsy bitsy worried about
            Neo-Nazis on their doorstep cuz, um, they were fucking raped by Nazis
            back in this time called “World War 2”.

            Gee, maybe the Ukrainians are a tiny bit worried about the Russians because SEVENTY FRICKEN YEARS OF DOMINATION and near extermination during the Holodomor.

            If the Russians are worried about neo-Nazis…
            1) Worry about their *own* first
            2) Stop giving the external neo-Nazis fuel

            Oh, and… NATO isn’t a country. It’s an odd gap for you to have in your education.

          • Kelly Starks

            I think you won the endorsement war with Christina Hendricks.
            😉